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	<title>Comments on: Interactive Carbon IQ Test, and real climate change solutions</title>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description>One can grow soils, but it takes water to do so as well as CO2 ... and one has to have a balanced production by leguminous plants alongside all yield from the land, in other words a complete reversal of modern trends in agricuture... what one cannot do is remove the pollution of the soil with poisons of industial agricylture and waste which have long-term devastating effects on soil through damage to the ecosystem that maintains good soil... the permitted level of these poisons in agriculture  is about to be increased by law worldwide despite such problems as the worldwide loss of bees [which is pardoxically not seen in cities because there is far less agricultural poisoning of the food of bees in cities] 
 Soil is alive, it is part of the ecosystem ,and can grow, but not in our world without a complete reversal of &#039;progress&#039; in rape of the earth by capitalism ... human survival comes down to whether or not we can overcome human short-term thinking that our political processes have institutionalised in mankind , that means educating those with real power that their ways do not work long-term and engendering in them care for those who live after them ... frnkly it is not good news for the soil or our world , they are not people who can see far beyond a balance sheet expressed in the empty and short-term values of our very sick money system... 
 It is not that mankid could not thrive if we applied what we know to maintaining life, it is that the evolved system of values already demonstrated that it has no inherent care about devastating human populations or ecosystems , nor any vision except enslaving the world in debt to a few men , ultimately to one man to whom everyone else on earth will ow more than they have ...
 Without monetary reform which is resisted in the very stongest possible ways by the powers that be , there can be no recovery of the soil ... examine the plans in place and funded that will actually fill the seven-year window of opportunity IPCC says we have in order to limit global warming to the already horrific consequenes of 2C temp rise in the nearer future and soi becomes impossible as a solution not because it wouldn&#039;twork, but because mankind is committed to our disastrous way of politics , the real autocracy behind the mask of notional democracy that menas what actually happens is determined by tehway of thinking of a few men who believe in exploitation of mankind and nature at ever-increasing rate for sake of their own ambition to control mankind as unknowing slaves to the system that makes them rich and powerful... Can one solve mankind&#039;s scaled inequality and save our world when te system of politics has evolved over millenia to as priority defend itself by every trick it can harness against the interests of the masses?  My safe bet is no... for even in a crisis created by the system, te system is never seen as the enemy, never made responsible, neer changed because we no longer know how to live without it, have setour values relative to its horrendously poor performance ...
 The soil is dying ,as are the seas ... the web of life that behaved like a single organism has had many organs removed from it, species gone at levels like a massextermination ... change all the evolution of mankind&#039;s disastrous and frankly corrupt system in just seven years? Not in fifty years could one do so ...
  It is not that one could not do so if people knew what we collectively know , it is not thatwe don&#039;t have the intenet to convey such informnation to the world, it is siply that most don&#039;t care toivest time is such an enterprise and there would be vast ammounts of  counter-propaganda to drown out the truth anyway...  we shall thus devastate our planet and kill our children simply because we believed the lies our system has evolved to live by and could not revert to truth fast enough when the crunch bites hard enough ... in the end we do not even measure the threats to all mankind as a whole that this earth crries, so we will not even know why we destroyed ourselves, only the way we brought mankind to near-extinction by menas of living lies about our world ... one example in point, how many know the proof that capitalism exponentially overtaking our world is based upon lies ?  Who would yet believe that, how many will ever believe that could destroy our soil ,let alone that it did ?
 Can anyone stop it?  Not even the sad men who run it ,who believe sincerely that other men and nature are just resources to be exploited to the limit of profit ... they just never worked out what real profit would be ...the sytem lied to them t, but they will believe it until it fails us all ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can grow soils, but it takes water to do so as well as CO2 &#8230; and one has to have a balanced production by leguminous plants alongside all yield from the land, in other words a complete reversal of modern trends in agricuture&#8230; what one cannot do is remove the pollution of the soil with poisons of industial agricylture and waste which have long-term devastating effects on soil through damage to the ecosystem that maintains good soil&#8230; the permitted level of these poisons in agriculture  is about to be increased by law worldwide despite such problems as the worldwide loss of bees [which is pardoxically not seen in cities because there is far less agricultural poisoning of the food of bees in cities]<br />
 Soil is alive, it is part of the ecosystem ,and can grow, but not in our world without a complete reversal of &#8216;progress&#8217; in rape of the earth by capitalism &#8230; human survival comes down to whether or not we can overcome human short-term thinking that our political processes have institutionalised in mankind , that means educating those with real power that their ways do not work long-term and engendering in them care for those who live after them &#8230; frnkly it is not good news for the soil or our world , they are not people who can see far beyond a balance sheet expressed in the empty and short-term values of our very sick money system&#8230;<br />
 It is not that mankid could not thrive if we applied what we know to maintaining life, it is that the evolved system of values already demonstrated that it has no inherent care about devastating human populations or ecosystems , nor any vision except enslaving the world in debt to a few men , ultimately to one man to whom everyone else on earth will ow more than they have &#8230;<br />
 Without monetary reform which is resisted in the very stongest possible ways by the powers that be , there can be no recovery of the soil &#8230; examine the plans in place and funded that will actually fill the seven-year window of opportunity IPCC says we have in order to limit global warming to the already horrific consequenes of 2C temp rise in the nearer future and soi becomes impossible as a solution not because it wouldn&#8217;twork, but because mankind is committed to our disastrous way of politics , the real autocracy behind the mask of notional democracy that menas what actually happens is determined by tehway of thinking of a few men who believe in exploitation of mankind and nature at ever-increasing rate for sake of their own ambition to control mankind as unknowing slaves to the system that makes them rich and powerful&#8230; Can one solve mankind&#8217;s scaled inequality and save our world when te system of politics has evolved over millenia to as priority defend itself by every trick it can harness against the interests of the masses?  My safe bet is no&#8230; for even in a crisis created by the system, te system is never seen as the enemy, never made responsible, neer changed because we no longer know how to live without it, have setour values relative to its horrendously poor performance &#8230;<br />
 The soil is dying ,as are the seas &#8230; the web of life that behaved like a single organism has had many organs removed from it, species gone at levels like a massextermination &#8230; change all the evolution of mankind&#8217;s disastrous and frankly corrupt system in just seven years? Not in fifty years could one do so &#8230;<br />
  It is not that one could not do so if people knew what we collectively know , it is not thatwe don&#8217;t have the intenet to convey such informnation to the world, it is siply that most don&#8217;t care toivest time is such an enterprise and there would be vast ammounts of  counter-propaganda to drown out the truth anyway&#8230;  we shall thus devastate our planet and kill our children simply because we believed the lies our system has evolved to live by and could not revert to truth fast enough when the crunch bites hard enough &#8230; in the end we do not even measure the threats to all mankind as a whole that this earth crries, so we will not even know why we destroyed ourselves, only the way we brought mankind to near-extinction by menas of living lies about our world &#8230; one example in point, how many know the proof that capitalism exponentially overtaking our world is based upon lies ?  Who would yet believe that, how many will ever believe that could destroy our soil ,let alone that it did ?<br />
 Can anyone stop it?  Not even the sad men who run it ,who believe sincerely that other men and nature are just resources to be exploited to the limit of profit &#8230; they just never worked out what real profit would be &#8230;the sytem lied to them t, but they will believe it until it fails us all &#8230;</p>
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